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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=e57fbc76682afd0c7b6a5c53f2302ac0&#38;size=48&#38;default=http://www.thoughtcounts.net/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/165e6f97b36ca2b.png" alt="sandeep Identicon Icon" height="48" width="48" /> sandeep</title>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s the Thought that Counts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Updates in scientific literacy</title>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;biology&#8221; or &#8220;history.&#8221; I found this personally interesting in light of my earlier comments on how far it&#8217;s appropriate to extend religious tolerance. Even though it has upset some [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;biology&#8221; or &#8220;history.&#8221; I found this personally interesting in light of my earlier comments on how far it&#8217;s appropriate to extend religious tolerance. Even though it has upset some [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about this since Z wrote the post.  I don&#039;t believe discrimination is ok, but I don&#039;t disagree with anything she wrote. Maybe I&#039;m just rationalizing a dumb position, but I think I have two main reasons why we don&#039;t allow discrimination on religious beliefs.

One is this compartmentalization that Will mentions.  It&#039;s incredibly common for people who are generally intelligent to still be religious.  I think some people who are really at the top of the bell curve might have vague spiritual feelings, belief in God, religious practices because of cultural value, etc. -- but not the kind of literal, obviously absurd beliefs that Z was talking about. I think, however, that the vast majority of the population, including people who are above average intelligence, can compartmentalize like this.  That means that the variation in religiousness is probably explained much more by their family and other circumstances than their intelligence.  Therefore for most people, religiousness is not a very good proxy for rationality, so it&#039;d be only a very minor consideration if you were to consider it fairly (though Z&#039;s logic still does imply you should consider it that small amount).

The other reason is more practical.  If we were to allow discrimination based on religious beliefs, most of what would occur isn&#039;t this slight mark against someone&#039;s intelligence for believing extreme religious beliefs.  More often, it&#039;d be very religious people enacting drastic discrimination against those who don&#039;t share their beliefs.  Even if some slight consideration of religion would be rational and productive, we gain a lot more than we lose as a society by banning it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this since Z wrote the post.  I don&#8217;t believe discrimination is ok, but I don&#8217;t disagree with anything she wrote. Maybe I&#8217;m just rationalizing a dumb position, but I think I have two main reasons why we don&#8217;t allow discrimination on religious beliefs.</p>
<p>One is this compartmentalization that Will mentions.  It&#8217;s incredibly common for people who are generally intelligent to still be religious.  I think some people who are really at the top of the bell curve might have vague spiritual feelings, belief in God, religious practices because of cultural value, etc. &#8212; but not the kind of literal, obviously absurd beliefs that Z was talking about. I think, however, that the vast majority of the population, including people who are above average intelligence, can compartmentalize like this.  That means that the variation in religiousness is probably explained much more by their family and other circumstances than their intelligence.  Therefore for most people, religiousness is not a very good proxy for rationality, so it&#8217;d be only a very minor consideration if you were to consider it fairly (though Z&#8217;s logic still does imply you should consider it that small amount).</p>
<p>The other reason is more practical.  If we were to allow discrimination based on religious beliefs, most of what would occur isn&#8217;t this slight mark against someone&#8217;s intelligence for believing extreme religious beliefs.  More often, it&#8217;d be very religious people enacting drastic discrimination against those who don&#8217;t share their beliefs.  Even if some slight consideration of religion would be rational and productive, we gain a lot more than we lose as a society by banning it.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=5b849840907532a8254a40fe794e3594&#38;size=48&#38;default=http://www.thoughtcounts.net/wp-content/plugins/wp-identicon/identicon/cf0c979e61faa0d.png" alt="Will E. Identicon Icon" height="48" width="48" /> Will E.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons why religious beliefs are so hard to eradicate is because people are so good at compartmentalization. People can hold the most irrational beliefs about reality and still function perfectly fine in daily life. It&#039;s what makes me wonder if religious people really and truly believe the things their faith tells them. They sure don&#039;t act like it. They still know they better pay their taxes, stop at red lights, and go to the doctor if they get sick. God&#039;s not gonna heal that diabetes; a doctor will. They don&#039;t realize that prayers works as good as chance events (i.e., God &quot;heals&quot; self-healing diseases like cancer, say, but not amputated limbs). Maybe some day these people will realize they live safe and sane lives without thinking invisible entities that supposedly look over them, but I wouldn&#039;t bet on it happening any time soon. Should we discriminate against religious belief? Only to the extent that it infringes upon someone else&#039;s rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons why religious beliefs are so hard to eradicate is because people are so good at compartmentalization. People can hold the most irrational beliefs about reality and still function perfectly fine in daily life. It&#8217;s what makes me wonder if religious people really and truly believe the things their faith tells them. They sure don&#8217;t act like it. They still know they better pay their taxes, stop at red lights, and go to the doctor if they get sick. God&#8217;s not gonna heal that diabetes; a doctor will. They don&#8217;t realize that prayers works as good as chance events (i.e., God &#8220;heals&#8221; self-healing diseases like cancer, say, but not amputated limbs). Maybe some day these people will realize they live safe and sane lives without thinking invisible entities that supposedly look over them, but I wouldn&#8217;t bet on it happening any time soon. Should we discriminate against religious belief? Only to the extent that it infringes upon someone else&#8217;s rights.</p>
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